| No. 1760 | Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: RS422 converter | 2020-07-31 | ||
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Hello, I think your answer is useful. Again thanks for fast reply. w.k.r. Johan > Sollae Systems wrote: > ------------------------------------ > > CSE-H55N does not support multi-connection. > If the communication between HMI and Mitsubishi is just via a RS422 driver based protocol (not Modbus), you can choose from the following topologies: > > Topology 1: >  > > Topology 4: >  > > Note that, topology 4 is ONLY useful in case the physically distance between HMI devices are long. > > Best regards, > Khanh > > > Johan wrote: > > ------------------------------------ > > Hello again, > > > > ref. ""Unlike SMG devices, CSE-H55N2 is not designed to work with Modbus RTU, so it may not be an alternative in this case"" > > > > I have got some information from our parter (HMI), He says de communication between HMI and Mitsubishi is a RS422 driver based protocol (no modbus), > > so could then the CSE-H55N2 be a good alternative for Topology-2. > > > > gr. Johan > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems wrote: > > > ------------------------------------ > > > Dear Johan, > > > > > > Thank you for using our products. > > > > > > The configuration needs to be set based on your system (HMI, PLC working parameters). > > > Without knowing your working parameters, we can not provide a suitable configuration. > > > To provide recommendation for SMG device configuration, please send us the following information: > > > - All settings of SMG-5420 #1 > > > - All settings of SMG-5420 #2 > > > - Serial setting of HMI > > > - Serial setting of PLC > > > > > > Unlike SMG devices, CSE-H55N2 is not designed to work with Modbus RTU, so it may not be an alternative in this case. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > Best regards, > > > Khanh > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Hello again, > > > > > > > > We bought 2 units. > > > > I have tryed to make a connection, Topology-2 , without succes. > > > > Configuration software works ok. > > > > Could you send me a screenshot of a possible configuration of the units. > > > > > > > > > > > > As second option, is the CSE-H55N2 an alternative ? > > > > > > > > w.k.r. Johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > Thank you for helping us to make the best decision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems wrote: > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Dear Johan, > > > > > > > > > > > > We are sorry we cannot find any information about Modbus configuration from the screenshot you sent. > > > > > > Since Modbus RTU and Modbus TCP are listed in HMI's manual, HMI device probably supports Modbus protocol. > > > > > > Please contact HMI device's manufacturer to confirm it. > > > > > > > > > > > > As mentioned in an earlier reply, you can adopt one among three topologies for your system, depending on the protocol of HMI devices (Modbus RTU or Modbus TCP). > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > Again, HMI setting(1).zip > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems wrote: > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Johan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cannot see any attached file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see the attached file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for responding so fast. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the misunderstanding. > > > > > > > > > > Please look at the attached file. > > > > > > > > > > This is the configuration of the HMI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Feel free to ask more information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gr. Johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Johan , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As we can see from the documents you sent, these devices are using Modbus protocol to communicate with each other. > > > > > > > > > > > In this case, instead of normal RS422 to Ethernet Converter, we should use Modbus gateway to make these products communicate with each other via Internet/LAN. > > > > > > > > > > > The Modbus gateway helps to convert Modbus Serial to Modbus TCP and vice versa. > > > > > > > > > > > We recommend you to use SMG-5420 (RS422/485 Modbus Gateway) in your project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since HMI Monitouch supports both Modbus Serial and Modbus TCP, there are three possible ways to install your network. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topology 1: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Advantage: require only one Modbus gateway to connect to 4 HMI Screens. > > > > > > > > > > > - Disadvantage: The distance between four HMI screens is limited due to RS422 characteristics. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topology 2: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Advantage: The distances between four HMI screens have no limit. > > > > > > > > > > > - Disadvantage: require four Modbus gateways to connect to 4 HMI Screens. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Topology 3: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Advantage: The distances between four HMI screens have no limit. The connections between 4 HMI Screens require no additional Modbus Gateway => cost efficiency. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you use topology 3, you may need to configure the HMI screen to use Modbus TCP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please note that the current firmware of SMG-5420 (RS422/485 Modbus Gateway) only supports a single TCP connection. > > > > > > > > > > > It means at the one time, it only accepts the connection from one device. So right now Topology 1 is a suitable solution. > > > > > > > > > > > Fortunately, we are going to release a new firmware that supports multi-connection. It means all Topology 1, Topology 2, and Topology 3 can be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The exact release date of the new firmware is yet not fixed but will be within a month from now. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope the above is useful to you. > > > > > > > > > > > Please feel free to contact me if you need any further information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Khanh, > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems's Technical Support Team > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > See the attached files > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gr. Johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Good morning, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see the attachment file for information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > gr. Johan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sollae Systems wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Johan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your interest in our products. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is possible to use our products to make the connection between a Mitsubishi PLC and a Monitouch HM over Ethernet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You may need to choose the product depends on how Mitsubishi PLC and a Monitouch HM interact with each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In case of using Modbus RTU or ASCII, Modbus Gateway can be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In other cases, RS422 to Ethernet converters can be used. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To choose the right products, please check which protocol Mitsubishi PLC and a Monitouch HM interact with each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you can send us the model name of the devices in your system and the protocol you are using, we could provide a more detailed suggestion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We hope the above is useful to you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please feel free to contact us if you need any further information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johan wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Normally we have a RS422 4-wire connection between a Mitsubishi PLC and a Monitouch HMI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > case: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a possibility to connect more HMI'ss with RS422(4wire), on one PLC with RS422 connection, using RS422 to Ethernet converters. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > |
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